A Jehovah’s Witness

I met a nice lady in a clothing store the other day. And of course, we got to talking about God.

She told me she was a Jehovah’s witness.

She asked me about my denomination, and I told her that I had none, and was simply a believer in Jesus Christ.

We discovered that neither of us celebrated the usual pagan holidays like Christmas and Easter, and we even agreed that a person’s birthday should be marked differently than how the world celebrates it.

This made sense to me, for there was not the usual worldly demons attached to her, that were found on many of the people.

She shared with me, how her denomination is so persecuted and hated, and of the many fallacies that are out there in the world concerning her religion.

I was surprised to discover, that they spend great time just studying and memorizing all of the scriptures. (I had thought that they did not use as much of the scriptures as they do, but relied on other outside teachings instead.)

I was also surprised to discover that her religion was not one that taught of hard male dominance within a marriage, but one that believed that the woman should respect her husband, and the man should love his wife as he does his own body. No firm patriarchal dominance was taught, as can be found within other sects of Christianity.

I shared with her, some of the things I have been learning these past few years about demons, and how the Lord Jesus Christ gave us the power to cast them out in His name. “It completely changed my life,” I told her. “Before, when I was not aware of them, my life was such a mess! Constant fighting with my husband and my children, always seeming to have bad things happening to me and my family, from financial things to health issues. But now that I have been casting them out, all those problems are no more!”

Then I asked her, if their denomination believed in casting out demons in Jesus name.

“Oh we believe that there are such things as demons, we really do! We know that they can affect a person’s life no small amount!”

“Yes,” I said, “but do YOU cast them out in Jesus name?”

Something in her expression changed then, and she became more wary. “We believe that only some people have been given that gift.”

(Evidently, she believed she had not been one of those that had been given such a gift.)

I tried to tell her that all believers had been given this gift, but she did not believe it. “Besides,” She said, “I wouldn’t even know how to cast one out by myself.”

“Oh that’s easy,” I replied. “You simply say out loud, ‘Demon, I cast you out in the name of Jesus’.”

I told her then, that I could not sense the usual demons on her, which is why I had started talking to her. This puzzled me now, for if she did not cast them out in Jesus name, why is it that she did not have so many that they could easily be sensed?

It was then that I discovered that they read many scriptures out loud on a daily basis. That would be enough to at least cripple and discourage many demons from hanging around her, for my kids have well described to me what happens to demons when scripture is read out loud in their presence. They cringe as if in great pain, and crumble up into a little ball.

But still, they do not necessarily leave. Only casting them out in Jesus name will do that.

She asked me if I had ever been to one of their halls, and I told her no, but that one of my boys had gone one time with a friend during Passover.

She smiled, pleased with my answer. “And what did he think of it?”

I inwardly cringed. How could I tell her without causing her pain? But I also knew I could not lie or skirt around what he had found. So I simply came out and told her.

“He witnessed huge demons hanging over the leaders. They were attached to them.”

I expected a denial from her, for I knew that I had revealed a hurtful truth about her false religion. But what she said next just floored me.

Her eyes grew huge with excitement, and she said, “I knew it! I knew I was in the right religion!”

This time it was my own eyes that grew huge. I was shocked! Never had I suspected that she would respond with such an assertion!

“Well,” I said to her, still flabbergasted, “that doesn’t necessarily mean that you are in the right religion!”

“Well of course it does!” she replied. “It says so right in scripture! God’s Word tells us that His children will be persecuted and attacked by satan!”

“But we’re not supposed to keep the demons,” I replied.

She frowned. “Well, no, of course not,” she said.

I then explained to her, that the influx of demons in the churches in our area, (she knew at that point that I lived far out into the country,) was why we did not go to any of them on a regular basis.

“Well,” she responded, “no church is perfect. They are filled with imperfect people.”

“But they don’t have to keep their demons,” I answered.

I then told her that none of the churches within an hour’s drive from our home believed in casting out demons, and that this was why those churches were filled with them. I then told her of one church that I once knew of where we used to live, that did not have any in it, and that it was because they were quite proactive in casting any out, before, during, and after their services.

We were then interrupted by the sales person, so our conversation ended, and we said our goodbye’s.

It saddened me, to watch her depart, still thinking that she herself could not cast out a demon.

But at least now she knows how to, if she should ever change her mind…

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Later on that night, I went and did some research on the religion known as Jehovah’s Witness. It saddened me, to learn what I did. There are some serious problems in  their teachings. They have their own version of the bible where they changed certain words and passages so that they back up these teachings. Those that made the changes had no scholarly background, and could not even translate the relevant ancient languages needed for the few passages they changed. This woman had been a Christian for all of her life, and she had been searching for a church that kept God’s ways but could not find one. They all celebrated the pagan holidays. Then she found Jehovah’s Witness. They did not celebrate such things, and because of this, she told me she joined up with them.  All the other differences between Christianity and Jehovah’s Witness, she summed up as simply ‘not being perfect’. I looked at her while we were talking and realized, she had settled for second best.

Some other things noted about this religion:

They do not believe that unbelievers go to hell when they die. They do not believe that humans have a soul that lives on after the physical death.

“While the Jehovah Witnesses believe that Jesus lived and died, they do not believe everything that he claims about himself. They do not believe that he is God but has been created by God. He is still very important to God but not in essence God. They believe that he is in fact the archangel Gabriel become man. And while they believed he dies and paid a ransom for the sins of humanity, they do not believe that he rose again bodily but spiritually and materialized a new body in order to appear before his disciples.” http://christianity.net.au/questions/how_do_christians_and_jehovas_witness_differ

They believe that Jesus has already returned in spirit form, in 1914.

They believe that only 144,000 will be up in heaven. The rest will remain on earth.

There is no grace for them as we know it. They work to earn their salvation, by doing ‘kingdom publishing ‘ work.

“They don’t have a personal relationship with Christ (who they say is not God), but rather they observe a system of law and works…They also consider any salute to a flag as worship of that flag, and therefore prohibited. They don’t vote, hold public office or serve in the military.”  http://www.chick.com/bc/1985/jehovahswitness.asp

“The Witnesses are taught that the world is under the devil’s control. To leave the organization is to fall under Satan’s control…Because the Witnesses are taught that Armageddon could arrive at any moment, he/she would be destroyed at Armageddon if they were to leave. The Witnesses believe that the Watchtower organization is God’s “Ark of Salvation.” (That sounds like something a cult would say to keep you with them!)   http://www.chick.com/information/religions/jw/rescue.asp

Their history is filled with false prophecies. Their leaders also claim to speak for God.
“Founder Charles Taze Russell made several early predictions and pronouncements such as the start of the millennium in 1872, that Jesus actually came in 1874, and that 1914 would see, “The end of a war that would destroy the kingdoms of this world and fully establish the Kingdom of God.” When it became obvious that the prophecies had failed, the dates were revised only to have them fail again. Heinze elaborates on the many failed predictions including the building of a mansion in 1929 in San Diego, California for “faithful men of old” who were soon to be resurrected to take charge of the earth. The house eventually became an embarrassing monument to their failed prophecy so it was sold in 1948. Heinze points out that, since these failed prophecies were based on erroneous interpretations of Bible, how can one trust the Watchtower to rightly divide the Scriptures when it comes to their doctrine?”   http://www.chick.com/bc/2000/failedprophecies.asp

They also do not believe in blood transfusions. However, I must say in their defense, our family can see some truth in this particular belief. We have seen that the demons just love the blood of an unbeliever that has been spilled. They congregate around it, increase their numbers with it, and draw strength from it. So, after seeing that, no one in our family would ever knowingly accept the blood of an unbeliever into their veins. A believer’s blood, yes. An unbeliever’s, no.

Some other links that proved interesting:
http://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies
http://www.bible.ca/Jw-Prophecy.htm
http://www.godandscience.org/cults/jwdiff.html
http://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-history
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1800s.php
http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_cults13.php
http://carm.org/is-the-jehovahs-witness-religion-christian
http://www.bible-knowledge.com/jehovah-s-witnesses/
http://www.bible.ca/Jw-NWT.htm

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Revelation 22:18-19 (KJV) “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

Proverbs 30:6 (KJV) “Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.”

Matthew 24:3-5 (KJV) “And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”

Jeremiah 14:14 (KJV) “Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.”

Matthew 7:15, 20-23 (KJV) “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves…Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

1 Timothy 4:1-2 (KJV) “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;”

Acts 20:29-31 (KJV) “For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.”

John 20:24-29 (KJV) “But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”

John 10:28 (KJV) “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.”

John 10:30 (KJV) 30 “I and my Father are one.”

Luke 16:19- 31 (KJV) “There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”

Matthew 25:30 (KJV) “And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

2 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV) “We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.”

1 Thessalonians 5:9-10 (KJV) “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.”

Luke 23:42-43 (KJV) “And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”

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The Next Church In Need Of Saving

A dream…

I was who I am now,
Same kids, same husband, same age.

I had gone to meet a good friend,
One who like me, still believed that the Holy Spirit
Still spoke and worked in believer’s lives today.

He and his wife had asked me to meet them,
At one of the big churches,
For they had booths there,
Where you could sit down in the entrance
And chat for a bit with a cup of coffee.

We sat there for a little while talking,
Getting caught up with what was going on
With our lives since we last met.

I told him, that my older children
Were doing well in college,
Despite all the evil around them.
When he asked me why,
I told him that they could see
If there were any demons around them,
and then avoid them best they could.
This seemed to trouble him,
And he voiced his concern for my kids,
Wondering how they handled it,
Living around demons like that,
For what if one tried to attack them?

At that moment we were interrupted,
As the church service was let out,
And the foyer became filled with people.

I had wanted to purchase a small bag of my favorite chocolates
That they had for sale in their coffee area,
And the server was now there, available for orders.

So I excused myself for a moment,
And as I went back to the shelf to grab a bag,
I also seen a pile of glossy colorful one-page hand-outs,
On the various beliefs of this church.
There were one or two that caught my eye,
And I took one of each of those,
But one especially seemed interesting,
For it was on the topic of demons.

As I tried to grab it, someone bumped into me,
And I then turned to look for a moment
at the person who had bumped into me,(it was a young kid,)
And then back again to the pile of fliers,
I found that I could not find that particular flier again.

I tried searching for it,
And this caught the attention of someone else there at the church,
who then came to try and talk to me,
and try and answer any questions that I might have.

I then seen the pastor walking out from the back of the service,
And realized with shock that it was pastor Jeff,
From our old evangelical Lutheran church from many years ago.

I called out to him,
And he paused to look down at me, (he was slightly taller than I,)
And I know he recognized me,
But there was a reservation about him,
And I sensed he was not about to greet me as a long lost friend
That he had once known well.

He asked me if I was finding everything O.K.,
And so I told him that I was trying to find their flier on demons.

“Oh!” He exclaimed with ease, “I can tell you all about that.
It is a short flier, anyways,” he confides in me with a wink.
“The truth about demons,” he says, warming to the topic,
“is that there are none! Not in this world anyways.
They’re tucked away in hell. So you don’t have to worry about them.
They were only here on earth when Jesus was here.”

“But Jeff!” I exclaimed, walking right in front of him,
In the hopes that it would slow him down enough to listen to me,
(he was always busy multi-tasking and looking around to others and greeting them,)
“My children can SEE them in THIS world!”

At that point, we had stopped right in front of the booth where my friend was,
so my friends could easily hear our exchange.
Pastor Jeff looked at me with great pity in his eyes, and said,
“You should have them see a doctor.”

Shock rolled around within me.
He thought this was caused by my kids being sick?!
“But their doctors have said that they are healthy!”

Yet as I seen his still-pitying glare from his eyes,
I realized that it did not matter what I said,
He believed what he believed,
And it would not change just because of my testimony.

I then became aware,
that there was a HUGE dark demon hanging over him,
Him and the whole church.
It was incredibly oppressive,
and it weighted down upon the people and upon pastor Jeff,
Like a HEAVY boulder upon his shoulders.
And was shackled to one of his legs with chunky but silent chains.

I stumbled in my steps as I struggled to keep up with him,
And then finally gave it up and let him walk off,
(to continue meeting and greeting his congregation,)
For I needed to escape the pressure of that strongman demon.

I returned to my friend in the booth.

“So how do they deal with the demons if they attack them?!”
My friend asked me again. Bless his heart, he was still concerned for them.

“They cast them out in the name of Jesus, and then the demons leave!
I paused and then added, “it works better than what some doctor would give them…”

Normally, if I would say such a thing to someone about my kids,
It would be said as a joke, for doctors are not needed
To remove demons, or to remove such a wonderful spiritual gift,
Which the bible calls spiritual discernment.
(Some of my kids had it in a very strong form of it.
I myself had it in a much more subdued form.)
But I realized that my friend took it as a serious statement,
so I then ended my words with a reassuring smile.

My words seemed to make a big difference to him,
And relieved his concern for my children a great deal.

We finished our time together,
And as I went to go pay for the bag of chocolates,
I found that they had no real change for my ten dollar bill.

I was told to go put it in the cookie jar with all the other monies,
And to take out the change that I needed,
which would have been four dollars.

But when I tried to do this,
I found that there was no real cash left in the jar,
And that it was filled with these strange bills called ‘scripts’.
They looked like cash on one side, but on the other,
There was words and writings on it that had nothing to do with money.
The paper the script had been printed on had obviously been re-cycled
From the church’s offices and school rooms.

I asked my friend about it,
And he said that the kids at the church use it as a reward system,
to get treats and other such things for doing their school work.

Well, no one else had change around me,
And I was not going to ‘donate’ any extra cash to this church,
(not after realizing that it stood for such false teachings,)
And there was no way I was just going to take it,
So I had to go put it back on the shelf and not purchase it.

As I was leaving the church,
Someone in the entrance hall,
Was installing some kind of sensor, that would let the church know
More information about the people entering or leaving their building.

I asked the installer what kind of sensors it used,
(as a way of being friendly,) and as he answered me,
He asked me to hold one of its components for a moment for him.
He pushed the object into my hands, and I held it,
But then felt its strange activation on my fingertips.
So I hastily told the man that I could not hold it any longer,
For I was beginning to feel its effects.
I quickly exited the building,
And then the worker came out,
And I quickly handed him the part he had asked me to hold for him.

He grabbed it, but a second later he dropped it
Onto the cement sidewalk. (Had he felt its effects too?)
And it fell in between us.

I bent down to pick it back up,
(thinking how expensive it must be,
And wondering if the fall might have broken it,)
Before handing it back to the man.

The man looked at me,
And I could tell he was going to try and blame me
For dropping it if it did not work,
But as I looked around at all the cameras
that were recording everything around the building,
I gave him a slight shake of the head,
indicating that his ruse would not work,
For all they had to do was re-play their cameras,
And the truth would be out.
It had been the man who had dropped it, not me.

So I turned my back to the church, and left.

I then woke up.

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I realized, that this pastor,
Was treated almost like a demi-god,
By the members of his congregation.

Then I realized with shock and distress,
That I had done the same thing,
And had treated him like a demigod
When I was going to his other church!

People chased after him,
Wanting advice on this or that,
on spiritual matters or on real life matters,
Asking him for favors,
Or just generally wanting to be near him.

He rarely told the people to go seek GOD for the advice they were looking for.

This was a man who spent his life,
Going from one failing Lutheran church to the next,
In order to try and save it.

He had done so in our old church,
Though I must say, that I thought the church was just fine
When we first started going there.
It wasn’t until later,
When things started to change for the worst.
The higher-ups had caught sight of our little church,
And had heard the reports of the Holy Spirit working amongst the people.
So they sent this man, pastor Jeff,
To come in and transform the church into a mega-church.

After the transformation had been successful,
(to the governing board’s standards,)
He left and moved on to the next church in need of saving.

Saving…
As if this one man was some kind of god himself!

I asked the Lord to please forgive me,
For ever treating this pastor like he was a little demigod.

I then realized with a sudden start,
That all those years of feeling guilty,
Of wondering if we had left the church too soon,*
Had been complete and total waste of energy.

For here, in reality, the Lord,
In His gracious wisdom,
RESCUED us from that church!

If He had not,
That church could have scarred my children for life!
They would have been treated as if they were SICK
Whenever they would have said that they could see any demons.

A gift from the Lord was thought of as a sickness?

Now THAT WAS crazy…!

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* As a side note, and for an excellent commentary on questioning church authorities,

please see Tim Shey’s blog entry:

http://hitchhikeamerica.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/am-i-divisive-please-answer/
Thank you Tim, for re-blogging Lori Rodeheaver’s blog post on your web site!…